Moradok Lanna

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False Friends: Polite Words and Small Words

The Kham Mueang false friends you hear most often are not rare words. They are the small words that turn up in every sentence. The first is yin di (ยินฯดี). A Central Thai speaker hears "glad" or "welcome", but the Moradok Lanna dictionary defines it as "pleased; thanks; thank you". That is why northerners say yin di jao where Bangkok says khop khun kha.

This lesson collects about 15 polite words and small words in Kham Mueang: words for saying yes, polite endings, question words and linking words. Every one comes from the Moradok Lanna dictionary, with what a Central Thai speaker expects and what a northerner means.

ยินฯดี
ยินดี yin di
Say it: yin-dii auto (à low · â falling · á high · ǎ rising · no mark = mid · double vowel = long)
pleased; thanks; thank you (also *yin di yin ban*)
Moradok Lanna dictionary entry (in Thai) →
ℹ️ Info
Read this first: nobody is wrong
Many of these words also have their Central Thai meaning in the same dictionary: ko can mean "to build", and lae can mean "to look". This lesson does not say the Central Thai sense is wrong. It shows that when these words sit at the end or in the middle of a northerner's sentence, they usually do a different job.

Yin di, khop, maen: ways of saying yes that confuse people

Word Lanna script A Central Thai speaker expects The dictionary says
yin di ยินฯดี glad, welcome pleased; thanks; thank you
khop ขอฯบ edge, frame edge, frame; and also a verb: to accept, to report, to be pleased
maen แม่นฯ accurate, on target a word of confirmation: true, yes, right, correct
maen laeo แม่นฯ¦วฯ (no such word) yes, that's right
maen ko แม่นฯกํอฯ (no such word) right? as in khon ni maen ko (is this the person?)

Maen (แม่นฯ) is how northerners say "yes, that's right". If someone asks "maen ko?" and you answer "maen laeo", you have said "yes, it is". It has nothing to do with accuracy.

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Yin di jao = thank you
Under the word jao, the dictionary gives the example "yin di jat nak jao", thank you very much. If you remember only one sentence, make it this one. More ways to say thanks: Kham Mueang Words Locals Love
A large bamboo winnowing tray filled to the rim with black puffball mushrooms on a market stall
The Central Thai sense of khop exists in Kham Mueang too: the dictionary's example is khop dong, the rim of a winnowing tray (here full of puffball mushrooms) · Photo: Renaudsechet / Wikimedia Commons (CC BY-SA 4.0)

Jao: a polite ending, not a lord

A Central Thai speaker who hears jao (เจั้า) thinks of a lord or an owner. Those meanings are in the dictionary, but the one you hear most is the third: a polite word at the end of a sentence to show respect, like kha in Central Thai. For example, kin laeo jao (I've eaten) and bo ao jao (no, thank you).

The dictionary notes that today it is mostly used by women, but in earlier times men also used it when speaking to nobles and senior monks.

เจั้า
เจ้า jao
Say it: châo auto (à low · â falling · á high · ǎ rising · no mark = mid · double vowel = long)
a title for descendants of the ruling lords; a lord or master; a polite sentence ending showing respect, today mostly used by women
Moradok Lanna dictionary entry (in Thai) →
⚠️ Watch out
Another jao means "to rent"
The dictionary has a second word jao (เชั่า) meaning "to rent": to use someone else's property for a while in return for payment. Central Thai ch often becomes j in Kham Mueang, so chao (rent) becomes jao. Listen to what the conversation is about.

More polite endings: Kham Mueang Sentence Endings

Ka, ko, lue: not a crow, not building, not a rumour

At the end of a sentence, all three of these words make a question.

Word Lanna script A Central Thai speaker expects The dictionary says The dictionary's examples
ka คาฯ a crow or? yet? right? (also "stuck") ap nam laeo ka (have you bathed yet?) · bo muan ka (isn't it fun?)
ko กํอฯ to build, to light a fire to cause or build, and also a question ending pai ko (are you going?) · lam ko (is it tasty?)
lue รฤ a rumour, famous or? what?

Ka (คาฯ) and ko (กํอฯ) are used a little differently. The dictionary's examples show ko asking "…or not?" and ka asking "…is it?" or "…yet?". Lue (รฤ) means "or?" or "what?".

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There is a ko tree, too
Ko (กํอฯ) is also the name of a tree. The dictionary says its hard-shelled nuts can be roasted and eaten, and the mushroom that grows under it is called het ko.

Other question words (phai, sang, yang, tao dai): Asking Questions in Kham Mueang

Lae, an, yon: linking words that look like verbs

Word Lanna script A Central Thai speaker expects The dictionary says
lae แลฯ to look with, also, and; indeed
an อั้นฯ to hold back that, like that, that way
ja an จอั้นฯ (no such word) like that, so
i อี้ (no such word) this, as in ja i (like this)
yon ย้อฯร to go back, to retort because, due to

Lae (แลฯ) is a conjunction in Kham Mueang: "and, with". Lae meaning "to glance, to look" is in the dictionary too, as a separate word (แล), which is also the old name for a parrot, nok lae.

An (อั้นฯ) pairs with i (อี้): "that" and "this". The dictionary's example is "ja an ko ngam di", that way looks nice too. It has nothing to do with holding anything back.

Yon (ย้อฯร) means "because". The dictionary's example is "mi yon man": rich because hard-working.

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One sentence, three words
Heard with Central Thai ears, mi yon man sounds like three verbs: have, go back, be diligent. A northerner means rich because hard-working: mi here means "to be rich", and yon means "because".

Nak, dai, naem, kam: small words that change the whole sentence

Word Lanna script A Central Thai speaker expects The dictionary says The dictionary's examples
nak นักฯ a "-er" person (singer, student) very, much, extremely ja pai u nak (don't talk so much) · wok nak (lies a lot)
dai ดายฯ in vain; to weed only, idly, plain, careless kin khao bo dai (eat plain rice) · yu dai (sit idle)
naem แหนฯม sour pork sausage probably, ought to, might
kam คําฯ a fist a word, speech; a time, an occurrence khian sam kam (whip three times)

Nak (นักฯ) is mostly an adverb in Kham Mueang: "very, a lot". The dictionary explains that for someone skilled at something bad, northerners usually use khi, as in khi so (a prisoner). The sense "an expert" exists too, as in nak u (a speaker).

Kam (คําฯ) is simply Central Thai kham, "word". That is why the language of the north is called kam mueang (คำฯเมิอฯง), and u kam mueang means "to speak Kham Mueang".

⚠️ Watch out
U ba dok ba dai
This saying comes from dai. The dictionary translates it as all talk: someone who says things but never does them. It is not a compliment, so it is worth knowing but not something to say to an elder.

As for naem (แหนฯม), "probably", the full story is in Food False Friends. If you want the sour sausage, ask for jin som.

Tham: more than asking

Tham (ถามฯ) has the Central Thai meaning "to speak in order to get an answer", but the dictionary's first meanings are to negotiate, to approach someone with a proposal. So when an elder says they have already gone to tham, they may mean they have gone to negotiate or make a proposal, not just to ask a question.

Listen to a conversation

This dialogue was written by Moradok Lanna from dictionary words and examples. It takes place at a small coffee shop in the hills.

The owner, an older woman: Lam ko?

Kaeo: Lam nak jao. Yin di jat nak jao.

The owner: Ma aeo ka?

Kaeo: Maen laeo jao. Ma aeo yon yak pho doi jao.

The owner: Ja an ko di laeo.

In plain English: "Is it tasty?" "Very tasty. Thank you very much." "Are you here on holiday?" "Yes. I came because I wanted to see the mountains." "Well, that's good, then."

Quiz: 5 questions with answers
  1. A northerner says "yin di jao". What does it mean? Thank you.
  2. Someone asks "maen ko?" How do you say yes? Maen laeo.
  3. What does "pai ko" mean? Are you going? It does not mean "go first".
  4. What does "mi yon man" mean? Rich because hard-working.
  5. What does "ja pai u nak" mean? Don't talk so much. (nak means "a lot")

Play: guess the meaning of polite Kham Mueang words

Guess what these words mean to a northerner. Pick an answer, then see the meaning from the dictionary.

Summary

  • Yin di means "thank you" in Kham Mueang, and khop can also mean "to accept, to be pleased".
  • Maen means "yes, right": answer maen laeo, ask maen ko.
  • Jao at the end of a sentence is a polite ending, like kha.
  • Ka, ko, lue at the end of a sentence ask questions; lae, an, i, yon mean "and, that, this, because".
  • Nak means "very", dai means "plain, idle", naem means "probably", and kam is simply "word".

Look up more words in the Moradok Lanna dictionary, read another set of traps in Kham Mueang False Friends: Feelings and Health, and practise greetings in How to Greet in Chiang Mai.

Sources

Practise the words from this article

Flip through 23 flashcards of the Lanna words used in this article.

Look up "ยินดี" in the Moradok Lanna dictionary (in Thai)

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